Watch this as soon as you can

[Surreptitious Cardboard Box]

Watch the video first, then read below.

www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

Soo, a somewhat controversial topic, I suppose. However, the video does bring up an important question: what did happen to the plane, then, if no substantial evidence was found?
Please feel free to discuss this.

The reason I told you to watch it before reading is because this video has apparently been put up on other websites before, then been taken down and there's a possibility that this site will soon get found too. Seems like somebody doesn't want it out there ...

[Richard El Britannia]

Seriously, that was spooky. I seriously want to know what happened now. Then there's the theory about the US government and Bush setting it up so then could invade Afghanistan which you told me about just then. Eerily, I believe that. There's something being hidden which the higher-ups don't want us to see, meaning it's potentially dangerous. I feel very strange after watching that.

[Sanzo]

I think its must of definatly been somekind of ATG Missile or something, but i also have a strange feeling, that its may be something from another world, lol.
Very interesting i must say.

[Surreptitious Cardboard Box]

There's certainly something being kept from us, yes.

What is an ATG missile?

[Ramirez]

Anti tank something possibly? I dunno my acronysism is incredibly dire.

I'll watch this soon. Sounds itneresting.

[Surreptitious Cardboard Box]

It's pretty short, so it doesn't take that long. Just try to watch it as soon as possible, in case it gets taken down.

[Otzlowe]

Air to ground missiles. They're coming out with guided missles that can fly without the need for human guidance at low altitudes to attack enemy ground targets. It makes sense really... *Scratches chin*

I remember there being news about one of the planes being driven into the ground, because the passengers took it over and crash landed it instead of having it hit what it was headed for... I know that doesn't explain the other plane that just disappeared though... it's almost like there's three conflicting stories here.

Where did the 757 go? What happened with the sighting of the small passenger plane (I believe that was people seeing a missile and mistaking it for a plane though... not sure.)? How could a plane of any kind crash-landed into the Pentagon, left that damage, and not left any marks of plane debris?

It seems like a Missile is the most logical explanation from what I can see here...

[elfenears]

Woah... thats really interesting. I think what UM said earlier about the US government setting it up so they could invade Afghanistan sounds pretty likely. Its kinda scary in a way, watching that.

[Ramirez]

PFT! I think it is OBVIOUS why there were no signs of the Boeing 757 at all! Simply because American airplanes are made out of paper. XP

Just joking i had to pause it half way through to write that lmfao. Lemme watch the rest...

Wow, i am actually quite shocked... Its painfully obvious something quite important and dark has been kept from public ears... All the facts are there. About how a 'plane' could fly 530mph at 2 feet high and how many eye witness accounts believed the sound to be more of a WHOOSH then a plane sounding noise...
Additionally wouldn't more people have seen a plane come flying by at such a low altitude?

All in all the evidence looks pretty encriminating... But you have to ask yourself one question. Would the USA government really be this dastardly in framing another country and even risking the lives of its own citizens? Well when you consider who is running the country and the country that was framed it starts to make sense... Bush has an insatiable hunger for oil. Maybe this whole 'image' we have Bush is nothing more than a mere charade to full us all.

Heh, expect the 'feds' to confiscate that video too in a matter of time. ;D

[Otzlowe]

ramirez said:

Bush has an insatiable hunger for oilstupidity. Maybe this whole 'image' we have Bush is nothing more than a mere charade to full us all.

Fixed.

You could be right though, America has been doing some dodgy stuff lately, and stupid things too. It seems like they want to do stuff that's so stupid here, it makes the war seem somehow decent.

Infact, in america just about everyone I know thinks Bush is a complete lunatic, then there are the people who say it's not Bush's fault that all this is happening. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot it's Bush and his cabinet, aswell as the inner government's fault. They keep doing fishy things with lack of reason, and if they ever have one at all, the never see the light of day, because they're squelched by the feds.

I'm pretty sure the American government would do something like that, since they're not showing any signs of intelligence with what we see here in America all the time. Not to mention they manage to find the dumbest reasons to want to do these kinds of things, and from what it seems like, go out of their way to frame another country for it, so they can invade them.

This is just one more thing on the list of dodgy stuff I keep seeing from the government, not to mention completely stupid things. *Sigh*

[Surreptitious Cardboard Box]

verius said:

I remember there being news about one of the planes being driven into the ground, because the passengers took it over and crash landed it instead of having it hit what it was headed for... I know that doesn't explain the other plane that just disappeared though... it's almost like there's three conflicting stories here.

Hmm, it's funny you should mention that, actually Verius, as I was telling UM about that fourth plane, just yesterday. There is a film that I watched last wednesday, called Flight 93 (it is a film that was made this year for TV. Another film called United 93, which you are more likely to have heard of, was also made this year), which basically tells the story of the fourth plane that was hijacked. The passengers on Flight 93 discovered that their plane had been hijacked and eventually fought the hijackers for control of the plane so that they could crash-land it into a field, having heard that three other planes had already been crashed into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. There are two buildings that officials believe this fourth plane was headed for and one of those buildings is the White House.

What's odd, is that in the film, a crater is shown at the end, where the plane supposedly landed. However, 1) the plane is nowhere to be seen. You see firemen talking and suggesting that perhaps the plane 'bounced' into the woods, which are just a few metres beyond the crater. 2) the crater looks waaay too small for the plane. I'm trying to find a still from the movie but it's quite hard.

However, my mother agrees with me that there's no way a plane could bounce from a crater far into the woods and travel so far that it moves out of sight. Also, there is very little wreckage seen around this crater and as the above video shows, plane crashes leave wreckage. So, that is at least two planes that appear to have gone missing.

[Ramirez]

>_< If the plane did bounce into the woods it would be entirely noticavle wouldn't you think? What with parts still being quite hot from the explosion and possible still on fire and would cause a small forest fire.

[Surreptitious Cardboard Box]

Well, I found this link, so maybe that will explain it a little bit more. Apparently an engine broke loose but the FBI are still not releasing the audio file from the black box in the cockpit that recorded everything that went on in the cockpit during the flight.

Also, this page expands a bit more on the theory that the US government may know more about it than they're letting on.

[Otzlowe]

It's more than a theroy, it's the truth. They're stupid, but they're not stupid enough to just go around covering something pointlessly up for no reason, I'll grant them that. They have to have SOME reason for doing all these things, and telling the public these obvious fallacies, so that we'll just move past the subject and on to other stupid things they do to draw our attention.

You're right too... I heard the plane crashed somewhere not far from where I live, and they managed to show a re-enactment, and a clip of the field the plane had supposedly landed in... but somehow it was from -before- the plane had hit it... because there was no plane! I'm pretty sure that if they turned the camera, you would see the crater, and realize even there, no. plane. It all doesn't seem to add up to me, two missing planes, and what looks like a missile strike in place of a jetliner supposedly hitting the pentagon, the feds confiscating all possible evidence suggesting the truth, and a strange report or a small passenger aircraft, making it more likely that it could have actually been a missile.

If you look in the original video that was posted, when they slow it down to show the "plane" it hardly looks like any kind of plane I've ever seen. It's too narrow, and even through the pixelation, it just doesn't look big enough to be a jetliner.

This is all pretty dodgy.

[Surreptitious Cardboard Box]

Yeah, the fact that the FBI confiscated all these videos that security cameras and members of the public took strongly suggests that they don't want us to see something.

Hey, didn't Bush once say that he invaded Iraq because God told him to? My mum said she saw this was the headline on a newspaper and it wasn't a tabloid; it was one of the more respectable newspapers.