RAND_AL'THOR
It's a cat wearing a tiny hat, and you can never unsee that.
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Post by RAND_AL'THOR on Jun 1, 2008 16:30:25 GMT
I've seen all sorts of theorizing for who River is, anywhere from her being Rose, Donna, or even Jenny. First two are obviously false, and for the third, even if River was a regeneration of Jenny, why would the Doctor be in a romantic relationship with his daughter?
I really liked Silence in the Library. Great setup for a two-parter, but that was to expected, as this was written by the Grand Moff. I'll reserve further judgment until I see Forest of the Dead.
Although, thanks to this, I'll never see "dust in the sunbeams" the same again. Add that to the list of gas masks, statues, and broken clocks.
Now, from what I've heard, next week Donna will receive a message from someone about something soon to happen.
I can't wait to see how "The Girl" (that's what Davies said her name was) ties into the story. I've got my theories, which involve "CAL", can't wait to see if I'm right.
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Post by Surreptitious Cardboard Box on Jun 2, 2008 12:15:22 GMT
Lmfao at those theories, especially the third. The only other possibility I gave mild consideration to was that it was Captain Jack - he's already turned into the Face of Boe and got pregnant at some point, and we've seen with the Lady Cassandra that either she has changed gender at some point, or the writers of the show did not spot that continuity error - but several things that were said/that occurred in this latest episodes suggest that actually the Prof may be a companion of his, though obviously one he hasn't yet met.
Mm, on Saturday night, Kat and I were talking and getting slightly freaked out by the fact that we were sitting in our respective bedrooms in the darkness. I had only one lamp on in my room, and that was on the other side of the room - to go down my staircase, I had to walk through the shadowsZOMG.
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RAND_AL'THOR
It's a cat wearing a tiny hat, and you can never unsee that.
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Post by RAND_AL'THOR on Jun 2, 2008 14:00:50 GMT
Watched Silence in the Library again, and my vote for one of the creepiest moments of the episode, besides all of that with shadows, has to go to Donna's disappearance in the TARDIS. Not only was it creepy how that looked, not to mention that scream, but the idea that she wasn't even safe once back in the TARDIS was really scary.
I wonder what's happened to Donna. Again, I've got a theory.
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Post by Surreptitious Cardboard Box on Jun 2, 2008 15:54:19 GMT
I have to admit, I haven't found this episode as scary as the others written by Moffat. I finally watched The Girl In The Fireplace yesterday, and that bit with the clockwork dude under the bed did make me JUMP, and of course, I first watched The Empty Child a few years back, and my mum and I were terrified of that. Blink was probably the scariest so far, but Silence In The Library is more ominous style scary, rather than jump-in-your-seat-and-hide-behind-your-hands style. If I'm gonna bring in Shocking Cinema theory from FS6 of my Film Studies exams, then I would classify the latest episode as that which induces intellectual shock, rather than visceral, and I think that's further achieved by the fact that the threat isn't wholly physical, or at least doesn't appear physically to us.
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RAND_AL'THOR
It's a cat wearing a tiny hat, and you can never unsee that.
Posts: 280
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Post by RAND_AL'THOR on Jun 2, 2008 20:05:23 GMT
Okay, I'll explain my theories:
"The Girl", Cal, is the index computer for the library. The apartment is a virtual reality she has made to escape to. Something went wrong (probably the incident a hundred years ago), and Dr. Moon is a repair program.
What went wrong? My theory is that the girl's "father" is actually a computer virus, and has something to do with what's going on. The Vahta Nerada have nothing to do with the mess-up of the index computer; they're just a life form that moved in to feed. The Doctor said it, they exist on most worlds.
Whenever someone falls victim to the Vashta Nerada, the exact moment before they are consumed, a copy of them is saved to the library's hard drive. Therefore, the person may be killed, but an echo of them still survives in the databanks. What happened to Donna? The girl (the index computer) saved Donna to its memory, that's how her face appeared on the node. Donna's still alive, of course, and the Doctor just needs to "download" her or whatever from the computer.
And that's about all I have, for now.
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Post by lycoris on Jun 6, 2008 21:52:38 GMT
Rewatching the episode, when he's scanning for life on the planet, I cannot help but think how stupid that is. One word comes to mind and that is bacteria. Millions of them on your skin and inside your stomach and other places. There was no reason to assume the worst there because the number of actual organisms in that place rose quite dramatically just by them showing up.
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RAND_AL'THOR
It's a cat wearing a tiny hat, and you can never unsee that.
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Post by RAND_AL'THOR on Jun 6, 2008 22:50:45 GMT
Rewatching the episode, when he's scanning for life on the planet, I cannot help but think how stupid that is. One word comes to mind and that is bacteria. Millions of them on your skin and inside your stomach and other places. There was no reason to assume the worst there because the number of actual organisms in that place rose quite dramatically just by them showing up. Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that. The Doctor said it himself, he ran a scan for life of any kind.
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Post by Surreptitious Cardboard Box on Jun 7, 2008 13:41:56 GMT
I found myself puzzled by the same realisation. Reminds me of when Rosie was pointing out the flaw in his plan in the first episode of season two, when what was supposed to be an intravenous cure for the diseases was just poured on everyone in the lifts and passed through skin contact, instantly healing everybody that had been afflicted. But then, unfortunately, it's ultimately a kid's programme, so apparently all science has to be simplified for them ¬__¬.
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RAND_AL'THOR
It's a cat wearing a tiny hat, and you can never unsee that.
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Post by RAND_AL'THOR on Jun 7, 2008 19:52:31 GMT
But then, unfortunately, it's ultimately a kid's programme, so apparently all science has to be simplified for them ¬__¬. Damn kids. I jest, I jest. Or do I? Anyway, Forest of the Dead finished airing about an hour ago, meaning I can search for torr--err, I mean, I'll be watching it soon. I'll update this post with my thoughts after watching it. I'll just have to avoid the DoctorWhoForum and /tv/ until then.
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Post by Richard El Britannia on Jun 7, 2008 20:07:00 GMT
I can't work out if that episode had a happy or sad ending. Fecking brilliant, though.
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Post by lycoris on Jun 8, 2008 10:32:59 GMT
The next one looks confusing to say the least.
Forest of the Dead was certainly confusing at the beginning but I have to say, I really felt sorry for Lee at the end.
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Post by Surreptitious Cardboard Box on Jun 8, 2008 12:30:53 GMT
I know it's harsh, but people with stutters crack me up. But then I'm the girl who laughed "ha ha, stupid cripple", so what do you expect? Still it was hilarious to see the little Charlotte girl screaming "shut up!" at everyone. I've forgotten everything else @_@.
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RAND_AL'THOR
It's a cat wearing a tiny hat, and you can never unsee that.
Posts: 280
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Post by RAND_AL'THOR on Jun 9, 2008 2:39:53 GMT
It goes without saying that I thought this was a truly epic two-parter, another fantastic story by Steven Moffat. There's really very little, if anything, for me to complain about with this story. The pacing was brilliant, the two discoveries of the dead archaeologists (first in the corridor, second in the data core) were nicely done (I caught the first one when the line "We should go now, Doctor!" was repeated). Perhaps what I liked best about the story were River's hints about who the Doctor will become: someone who enemies turn and flee from just at the sight of him, and the Doctor swaggering back to the TARDIS and opening the doors with a snap of his fingers. With all of that as a backdrop, this image was truly an amazing visual, at the end of the episode. This episode greatly deals with the Doctor as a legend, and hints that, even after all we've seen the Doctor go through, there's still a long way to go, and he will become even more of an epic legend. Then there's the idea of the Doctor's name. What's in a name? For the Doctor, it seems it is more than just sounds, something a person goes by. I love the idea that the Doctor's name holds power, and is something dangerous, potentially deadly. It adds even more impact to the name of the show: Doctor Who? That's been one of the ongoing themes of this series. Think back to Fires of Pompeii, to what Evelina tells the Doctor: "Even the word "Doctor" is false. Your real name is hidden. It burns in the stars, in the Cascade of Medusa herself. You are a Lord, sir. A Lord of Time." What power does the Doctor's name hold? This is something that will never be revealed, no matter how long the show lasts. It's the essential mystery of the show; reveal that, and there's nothing left. The name holds power because it is not known. The moment the Doctor's name is revealed to the audience, it loses it's enigma, it's mystery, it's power. Silence in the Library/The Forest of the Dead easily earns a place high up on my list of top ten favorite Doctor Who stories. (What are the other stories on that list? That's for neither here or now). Steven Moffat has crafted a rather complex story, here. Perhaps it's the most confusing episode since Ghost Light, from the Sylvester McCoy era. If you liked the complexity of this story, I highly recommend you go and track down a copy of that story; you won't be disappointed. Not only is Ghost Light every bit as complex and confusing (perhaps more so) than this story, it's also every bit as frightening. After all of that, it's near impossible for any story to follow up on this one, which is why I feel so sorry for next week's story, Midnight. Even watching the trailer, I was thinking, "Such a shame to have to follow Steven Moffat." Midnight is the last "normal" episode before the "Big Final Three", as I refer to Turn Left/TBA*/Journey's End. All the excitement, all the build-up, is waiting for those episodes, not Midnight. Still, Midnight does look to be an interesting episode, but will inevitably fall short of this two-parter.
*The title of Episode 12 has yet to be revealed. Russell T. Davies said the title is "too spoilery", and I don't expect the title to be revealed until the episode is broadcast. Either that or this coming Thursday, for the television listings, which don't really favor "TBA" to be printed as episode titles. Davies has given us hints on the title: Three words, none of which begin with the letter "D" (so no "Daleks" or "Davros"). Most common guesses for the title are "The Stolen Earth" or "War on Skaro".
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RAND_AL'THOR
It's a cat wearing a tiny hat, and you can never unsee that.
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Post by RAND_AL'THOR on Jun 10, 2008 3:46:49 GMT
So guess what I've found? A picture of Davros, from the filming of episode 12. Looking at the picture, it looks like a photo of a monitor displaying what was being filmed, so it's at an odd angle, and the resolution isn't all that great. But it's Davros, all the same. [PHOTO DELETED AT BEHEST OF BBC] [INSTEAD, PLEASE ENJOY THIS PRODUCTION PHOTO FROM REVELATION OF THE DALEKS] At first glance, Davros' face reminds me of the aged Doctor from Last of the Time Lords. But it looks like Davros has been reconstructed, since his last appearance in Remembrance of the Daleks. At that point, he was just a head and an arm wired in to a computer frame, held together by a bunch of cables inside a Dalek casing. At the end of that, his one remaining arm was destroyed.
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Post by lycoris on Jun 10, 2008 12:40:23 GMT
Seriously? This may just kick a lot of ass then.
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